3/23 Lonnie Athens – The Process of Violentization

Air date: Fri, March 23, 2012
Guest: Lonnie Athens

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Lonnie Athens was senior research criminologist at Georgetown University Law Center  and now teaches in the criminology department at Seton Hall University. After graduating from Virginia Polytechnic Institute, Mr. Athens continued his criminology studies at the University of Wisconsin.  After college, Mr. Athens interviewed inmates about their criminal lives and social experiences,  focusing on the areas of Iowa and California for his interviews.  Mr. Athens also worked as a probation and parole officer in northern Virginia in 1986. He took all of  his findings and his studies and put them together to form the book, “The Creation of Dangerous Violent Criminals“, in which he discusses his theory and the cases he studied along the way. The theory he developed is known as The Process of Violentization.  This theory focuses on nature vs. nurture and supports the nurture argument as it pertains to serial killers.  Mr. Athens discussed his background, publications on his Violentization Process Theory and the implicatons it has on our understanding of criminals and why they kill.

  • Meet Lonnie Athens (1:40)
  • Mr. Athens shares his unique background with us. (3:40)
  • The four types of violent people in society are described by Mr. Athens. (7:20)
  • Mr. Athens controversial violentization model is discussed along with his research for the book,
  • “Why They Kill.” (7:50)
  • Mr. Athens shares his experience on interviewing violent inmates. (12:30)
  • We discuss the provocative titles in the book, while Mr. Athens shares his insight. (16:20)
  • Mr. Athens describes the obstacles he had to overcome while dealing with violent criminals in prison and even the guards. (20:30)
  • Mr. Athens unique work is discussed, as it is not the traditional way of conducting research and developing a theory, resulting in criticism from others. (27:50)
  • Mr. Athens explains his theory of “people don’t snap.” (37:30)
  • Mr. Athens breaks down the four part process of his violentization model. (38:20)
  • Mr. Athens gets into the specifics of his theory, in relation to social experiences while applying
  • his theory by using examples. (46:30)
  • Mr. Athens sums up the stages that one goes through when dealing with levels of violence, along with intervention, while real cases from his book are discussed. (54:30)
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Joey Ortega started his investigative career early at the age of 18 working as an apprentice investigator for local detectives. He started out doing insurance fraud investigations and background investigations. Proving adept in the areas surveillance and information gathering, Joey continued to seek further investigative challenges. From there he went on to do internal investigations for a number of companies that include; Sears, Roebuck Co., Saks Fifth Avenue, and K-mart. He was largely responsible for investigating issues of internal theft, embezzlement, workers comp fraud, and crime ring investigations. His success eventually earned him a position as a national investigator for a cellular chain, investigating crime rings on a national level. Trained in the Reid technique (interviewing/interrogation), Joey was able to gain confessions consistently without a single prosecution ever being challenged in court. Throughout his career as an internal investigator Joey continued to work for various private investigative agencies. Moving away from insurance fraud, Joey began developing his skills in the areas of criminal defense investigation, fidelity investigation, missing person’s investigations, and stalker investigations. It was the area of stalker investigations that Joey began to discover his passion for computer crime investigations. Having to learn quickly how to trace harassing and threatening emails, Joey began see that this is where the future of crime and justice was heading and decided to throw himself deeply into the subject. As a result, Joey’s clientele began to include those who were victims of internet fraud and cyber attacks. Joey is also the co-founder of The Ullemeyer Group, Inc. an investigative and training firm based in Santa Barbara, California that specializes in forensic training and consulting.
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